At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does identity view arise?” “Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …” “When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, identity view arises. When feeling … perception … choices … consciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, identity view arises. What do you think, mendicants? Is form permanent or impermanent?” “Impermanent, sir.” … “But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would identity view arise?” “No, sir.” “Is feeling … perception … choices … consciousness permanent or impermanent?” “Impermanent, sir.” … “But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would identity view arise?” “No, sir.” “Seeing this … They understand: ‘… there is no return to any state of existence.’”